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Started by Hogsy, April 09, 2015, 03:02:53 AM

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Quote from: demosthenes9 on April 15, 2015, 11:28:44 AM
Given the volume of the ranch, would it help to split the snake up and run 1/2 on opposite sides ?
I had the same thought and was going to try that next, but after starting it with 30 lit briquettes it hit 225f in 20mins..... I did have to adjust the vents for the next 2hrs to keep it between 225-250f but once the 30lit ones burnt out and the snake was lit it settled and didn't require much vent control for the rest of the trial which was 10hrs. I estimate you could get a 40hr cook if you had the snake running around the entire charcoal grate.

Golly and I have been thinking about how we could turn it into ranch WSM similar to @Prof. . Only problem was it was cost a fortune to get a middle section built. So I decided to put our roti ring on to see how the temps went. Well.... It handled beautifully, I had to close the top vent to 1/4 open to control the temp but once I found that sweet spot it sat at 235f for the next 3hrs 8)
So I'm getting some brackets welded to the inside the ring to support a second grate. It'll only have 6 inches clearance between the racks but that should be enough for most cuts we'll be cooking and the larger cuts can go on the top shelf where the lid gives it more clearance
We have to cook for 50 people next weekend and have 120 guests at a wedding to cook for the following month so it'll be getting a proper trial very soon

After seeing that vents are all but closed with no meat I'm pretty confident it will hold temp even once the C.M.F. Kicks in

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G$

Awesome work Joel.   Bear in mind if you REALLY load that up with meat, that will effect the temps a fair bit.  A few cuts should make nearly no difference though.

Hogsy

Thanks G$
Could I use something to emulate putting cold meat in the ranch in a trial? Like a pan of cold water?
If so what's a good ratio of meat : water ?
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austin87

Meat is 75% water so if you are running a test for 40 lbs of food I would throw 30-40 lbs of water on there and call it good. For 100 lbs test do 75-100 lbs water, etc.

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/42a903e2-451d-40ea-897a-22dc74ef6e1c/Water_in_Meats.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

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Quote from: austin87 on April 16, 2015, 01:15:33 PM
Meat is 75% water so if you are running a test for 40 lbs of food I would throw 30-40 lbs of water on there and call it good. For 100 lbs test do 75-100 lbs water, etc.

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/42a903e2-451d-40ea-897a-22dc74ef6e1c/Water_in_Meats.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

Not a direct comparison but that would be a great way to start the test, especially just to see how it behaves at the beginning.  Make sure you start with COLD water to replicate COLD meat mass.  Cool stuff.

phillyc0wb0y

Thanks so much for the detailed experiment! Can't wait to try it out!

shayneh2006

Nice stuff Hogsy. Good experiment...... The Snake heating the huge inside area of a Ranch is a ranch of a feat. Neat.....


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Quote from: Winz on April 09, 2015, 04:06:19 PM...This can help prevent charcoal grate "sag" over time.

The charcoal grate on my lone 22 is 2 years old. I just flipped it over because it's sagging. No bricks down there, OK maybe once. (But as you know, Performer char grates take a beating.)

Quote from: Idahawk on April 14, 2015, 09:08:54 AM...I then realized that the Ranch creates its own weather ...

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Quote from: demosthenes9 on April 15, 2015, 11:28:44 AM
Given the volume of the ranch, would it help to split the snake up and run 1/2 on opposite sides ?

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Quote from: austin87 on April 16, 2015, 01:15:33 PM
Meat is 75% water so if you ...

Kids, do not try this at home. Austin is a scientist. A fricken' SCIENTIST. Professional grade shit here. His beaker is bigger than your beaker. Step back please.

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with this setup ... I light the charcoal with a gas burner or with paraffin, I cover the grid with aluminum foil, I open the little vent in the side coal and other leave them closed and Vent Out I leave half open! doing so the ranch stabilizes between 230F-270F for 6/7 hours...until now I have never needed longer autonomies
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Hogsy

So I guess that's a minion setup your using,
Is that how you setup the fire when using it as a Ranch WSM ?
I love the grate mod @Prof. Is that a long SS hinge on the grate?
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"I estimate you could get a 40hr cook if you had the snake running around the entire charcoal grate."

@Hogsy  ....with the size of the charcoal grate in a Ranch, you could do a Nauitlus swirl snake......



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Almost all the way around, then cut inside & mimic the curve around a second or third time......I've always wanted to go around like that several times & see how long it would burn continuously !!!!

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